Kyosho Mini-z & DSM 2 FOR RC CARS PROTOCOL REQUEST

Aloha all

I already control my TRAXXAS 1/16 via my DEVO 10 with an Orange RX air DSM 2 ,but i wish i could control my Mini-z with my DEVO 10 too.

For this i would need either a mini-z protocol sended or a a DSM 2 " Ground " ( DSMR i think ) Protocol , Besause we now can find dsm 2 board for mini-z .

Thanks for help guys

Make a detailed photo of Mini-z receiver insides, put it somewhere and put a link here so that we can evaluate feasibility of it. Don't put the photo here, only link - this forum downscales images so that they not very useful for analysis.

Hi

I'm interested in Kyosho/KO Propo too for dNano (which uses same tx/rx as Mini-Z) so I'll try and help as I can.
I have found a hack of a KO Propo Mini-Z module into a FlySky radio with alot of pictures which should help here: wiki.hb9tuh.org/index.php/FlySkyGT3B
You can see the module uses a CYRF6936.
If needed I can try to take some pictures of the dNano pcb but I have a poor quality camera.
Hope this helps.

I had to open the Dnano this morning so I took pictures as best as I could.
www.flickr.com/photos/63811379@N07/12874537483/
www.flickr.com/photos/63811379@N07/12874876484/
Left chip is a CYRF6936, right chip is a PIC16F690.

Yea, the only problem is that it is very expensive (for a person who's not into Kyosho cars). So you need to find a person capable of reverse engineering it and having interest in this kind of models.

Yes the cheap Tx is like 80€ and the receiver is on the same pcb as the ESC so that's about another 80€ may be 70 for a dnano. I guess the best way is to find someone able to lend some hardware.
Still I find strange that there's not more interest in "surface protocol" simply to have an all-in-one radio.

Anyway I've looked around a bit more and found a guy building a module so I guess he had to analyze the protocol at some point... Here's a video

I am not too happy with my trigger-grip controller - they have strange firmware which is not easy to configure. I'd prefer Deviation .

Yes, Kyosho is very expensive mostly because they're pretty much alone on their 1/27 - 1/43 market and dictate whatever price they want.
As for helping I can't do much as my electronic and coding skills are very basic at best.
May be someone can compile some links to tutorials/informations to point people willing to learn/help. For example here, What logic analyzer would I need? How hard is it to operate? How much does it cost? Some very basic questions... I guess many peoples are willing to help but don't know how or even where to start.

About car controller, stick-radio are still well used for crawler and drift cars. Recently enough KO Propo released an hybrid trigger-grip radio with a stick instead of the wheel, seems like there's still some interest in sticks. To me it's more the "universal controller" side of thing who's very appealing like universal module you're working on.

On the technical side of thing it looks like spektrum surface/marine dsm2/dsmr, kyosho ASF and ko propo SS won't need any electronic hacking, only coding. I believe spektrum is the cheapest and may be the most popular out of those three systems to get if you want to play around with surface protocols a DX2E with rx is 60$ new, so i guess you can find very cheap used one.

Excellents inputs guys , thanks for your interest with it and participating to making it a reality .

A TX to rule them all !

Have a good day everybody

I have a Redcat Earthquake 8E with a DSM-2C transmitter and wanted to know if Deviation will bind to it. I tried DSM2, but it didn't bind.

I don't think so. I'm not sure if your radio is "spektrum DSM" but anyway spektrum surface protocols are different from air ones and Deviation only has air protocol for spektrum. May be one day if spektrum surface protocols are hacked.

OK. I was hoping it would as PhracturedBlue stated "I'm not sure there is a lot of interest in using a Deviation transmitter for cars (though I have used mine with my Redcat)"