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Looking for SBUS/Serial output to OpenLRSng
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29 Aug 2015 19:29 #37290
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Looking for SBUS/Serial output to OpenLRSng was created by ohhorob
Can this be done?
(I've searched here for "serial output", and for "sbus", but cant find anyone describing outputting SBUS/serial)
Ideally, I could use the trainer port to connect the Devo with the Deluxe TX, however I'm fine with cracking open the Devo and wiring up whatever I need (Already have a Hubsan radio module in there)
My overall set up is:
Devo12S -- Serial/SBUS -- { DTH-UHF Delux TX } -- openlrsng -- { Brotronics 4ch remix } -- Serial/SBUS -- { SPRacingF3 } -- Cleanflight
I know my TX can take serial input .. github.com/openLRSng/openLRSngWiki/wiki/...-and-how-is-it-used-
My RX is fine too .. www.multirotorsuperstore.com/brotronics-4ch-remix.html
Any the flight controller has built-in inverter for SBUS
(I've searched here for "serial output", and for "sbus", but cant find anyone describing outputting SBUS/serial)
Ideally, I could use the trainer port to connect the Devo with the Deluxe TX, however I'm fine with cracking open the Devo and wiring up whatever I need (Already have a Hubsan radio module in there)
My overall set up is:
Devo12S -- Serial/SBUS -- { DTH-UHF Delux TX } -- openlrsng -- { Brotronics 4ch remix } -- Serial/SBUS -- { SPRacingF3 } -- Cleanflight
I know my TX can take serial input .. github.com/openLRSng/openLRSngWiki/wiki/...-and-how-is-it-used-
What is the use of the "Serial" port on the bottom of the Deluxe Tx ? and how is it used ?
The serial port can be used for telemetry or for inputting serial RC protocol such as SBUS/SpektrumSAT/SUMD.
My RX is fine too .. www.multirotorsuperstore.com/brotronics-4ch-remix.html
"Small and light OpenLRSng reciever with native SBUS output, support for PPM or 4 phsyical PWM outputs."
Any the flight controller has built-in inverter for SBUS
Broad RC receiver Support
Supports SBus, SumH, SumD, Spektrum1024/2048, XBus, PPM, PWM receivers. No external inverters required (built-in).
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29 Aug 2015 22:20 #37294
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Replied by mwm on topic Looking for SBUS/Serial output to OpenLRSng
SBUS and serial are normally things used to connect an Rx to a flight controller or servos. I've known it's suitable for connecting the Tx's to each other, but this is the first time I've seen that done.
Of course it can be done. You'll need to add an "SBUS" protocol to deviation that outputs on the trainer port. Then you can connect that to your Deluxe Tx and set it to use SBUS.
it might be easier to create a cable for the PPM input on the Deluxe TX, and then connect that to the trainer port, since deviation already has a PPM protocol that outputs to the trainer port.
Of course it can be done. You'll need to add an "SBUS" protocol to deviation that outputs on the trainer port. Then you can connect that to your Deluxe Tx and set it to use SBUS.
it might be easier to create a cable for the PPM input on the Deluxe TX, and then connect that to the trainer port, since deviation already has a PPM protocol that outputs to the trainer port.
Do not ask me questions via PM. Ask in the forums, where I'll answer if I can.
My remotely piloted vehicle ("drone") is a yacht.
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31 Aug 2015 03:21 #37323
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Replied by ohhorob on topic Looking for SBUS/Serial output to OpenLRSng
Is there any example code where serial is written to the trainer port?
I'm happy to code something up, but something similar driving the trainer port would be a huge head start!
I'm happy to code something up, but something similar driving the trainer port would be a huge head start!
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23 Jun 2016 15:51 #50993
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I'm guessing nothing ever came of this, but I'm very interested in this as well. How hard is it to set up another protocol on the serial port? I'd be looking to set up sumd which is relatively easier to implement
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23 Jun 2016 16:27 - 23 Jun 2016 17:17 #50995
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Taranis X9E | DEVO 10 | Devo U7E | Taranis Q7
What I do in real life: rivergoequestrian.com/
Replied by Cereal_Killer on topic Looking for SBUS/Serial output to OpenLRSng
I think the best option is for someone to "deviate" one of these LRS system then just install just the HopeRF module in Devo (via SPI) as if it were any other RF module.
Maybe that'll happen some day but till then it's always possible to use a sbus capable 2.4 receiver as a repeater.
Devo binds to 2.4 rx, that receivers sbus output gets wired to yhe input of your LRS ground side as if it were directly connected to the tx.
Maybe that'll happen some day but till then it's always possible to use a sbus capable 2.4 receiver as a repeater.
Devo binds to 2.4 rx, that receivers sbus output gets wired to yhe input of your LRS ground side as if it were directly connected to the tx.
Taranis X9E | DEVO 10 | Devo U7E | Taranis Q7
What I do in real life: rivergoequestrian.com/
Last edit: 23 Jun 2016 17:17 by Cereal_Killer.
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23 Jun 2016 16:37 #50996
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Replied by Elmtree on topic Looking for SBUS/Serial output to OpenLRSng
Now that would be super cool! Not even having an LRS box hanging off the back. I wonder if it would cause massive interference though, as that seems to be a problem with some transmitters.
I'm wondering how much latency would be added by having a 2.4ghz repeater though...
The main reason I want to move to deviation from opentx (9x) is the form factor of the 7e/6s while keeping full featured. Having built in 2.4 modules is just icing on the cake. The only issue is that there is a shared ppm in/out. I would like to use both my lrs and my headtracker. The lrs can have one ppm input and one serial input so if I can get serial out of the transmitter then I can do ppm into the lrs box from the headtracker. This would give me a nice compact setup. A hope rf module inside the TX would be even more compact of course, but I'm guessing a bit harder to implement than a serial protocol out.
I'm wondering how much latency would be added by having a 2.4ghz repeater though...
The main reason I want to move to deviation from opentx (9x) is the form factor of the 7e/6s while keeping full featured. Having built in 2.4 modules is just icing on the cake. The only issue is that there is a shared ppm in/out. I would like to use both my lrs and my headtracker. The lrs can have one ppm input and one serial input so if I can get serial out of the transmitter then I can do ppm into the lrs box from the headtracker. This would give me a nice compact setup. A hope rf module inside the TX would be even more compact of course, but I'm guessing a bit harder to implement than a serial protocol out.
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23 Jun 2016 17:21 #50999
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An unnoticeable amount.
Now I'm sure you could measure it with some sort of test equipment but I fly with a repeater setup (but note, I use ppm from the 2G4 rx to LRS input) and I literally can not notice any latency at all. If I don't notice any on PPM you're definitely not gonna notice any on sbus.
At first I just used this system on planes and larger non-racing multis but as of last weekend I installed a LRS rx on my mini tri racer and even still I can't notice any latency, it's not like a video system...
Taranis X9E | DEVO 10 | Devo U7E | Taranis Q7
What I do in real life: rivergoequestrian.com/
Replied by Cereal_Killer on topic Looking for SBUS/Serial output to OpenLRSng
Elmtree wrote: I'm wondering how much latency would be added by having a 2.4ghz repeater though...
An unnoticeable amount.
Now I'm sure you could measure it with some sort of test equipment but I fly with a repeater setup (but note, I use ppm from the 2G4 rx to LRS input) and I literally can not notice any latency at all. If I don't notice any on PPM you're definitely not gonna notice any on sbus.
At first I just used this system on planes and larger non-racing multis but as of last weekend I installed a LRS rx on my mini tri racer and even still I can't notice any latency, it's not like a video system...
Taranis X9E | DEVO 10 | Devo U7E | Taranis Q7
What I do in real life: rivergoequestrian.com/
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23 Jun 2016 17:29 #51000
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Awesome! That puts my mind to rest. I guess I'll definitely be upgrading the radio module in the radio so I can use frsky and an sbus capable receiver. Or I could do a spektrum satellite I guess? Though that would be harder to power.
What do you use?
What do you use?
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24 Jun 2016 12:55 - 24 Jun 2016 13:00 #51031
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Well I use a taranis (X9E) so I use a X4R as my repeater but I can bind my devo 10 to it if I wanted a non-tray radio.
Rc control
Taranis --[2g4]--> X4R --[ppm]--> LRS ground D side
MAV Telemetey
APM --> LRS air side --[OTA]--> LRS ground side serial port output --> teensy3.2 MAV converter --> X4R S.Port
Cleanflight telemetry
Naze32 serial port (NOT SOFTSERIAL) --> air side ULRS serial port --[OTA]--> ground side ULRS serial port --[serial inverter and pins bridged]--> X4R s.port. Note you need a s.port sensor in there somewhere to request the comms, can be on either side.
Note as far as telemerty I've got some BIG things in the works! RSSI displayed on taranis to begin with. Track my progress here
Taranis X9E | DEVO 10 | Devo U7E | Taranis Q7
What I do in real life: rivergoequestrian.com/
Replied by Cereal_Killer on topic Looking for SBUS/Serial output to OpenLRSng
Elmtree wrote: What do you use?
Well I use a taranis (X9E) so I use a X4R as my repeater but I can bind my devo 10 to it if I wanted a non-tray radio.
Rc control
Taranis --[2g4]--> X4R --[ppm]--> LRS ground D side
MAV Telemetey
APM --> LRS air side --[OTA]--> LRS ground side serial port output --> teensy3.2 MAV converter --> X4R S.Port
Cleanflight telemetry
Naze32 serial port (NOT SOFTSERIAL) --> air side ULRS serial port --[OTA]--> ground side ULRS serial port --[serial inverter and pins bridged]--> X4R s.port. Note you need a s.port sensor in there somewhere to request the comms, can be on either side.
Note as far as telemerty I've got some BIG things in the works! RSSI displayed on taranis to begin with. Track my progress here
Taranis X9E | DEVO 10 | Devo U7E | Taranis Q7
What I do in real life: rivergoequestrian.com/
Last edit: 24 Jun 2016 13:00 by Cereal_Killer.
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24 Jun 2016 15:17 #51037
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Replied by Elmtree on topic Looking for SBUS/Serial output to OpenLRSng
Awesome! I've replied and subscribed! I think might try a spektrum satellite to start with so I can use it once I get a transmitter. I think I've sourced a 6s so I'm excited. Then I guess I'll have to find a 3 or 4 in one module and maybe I'll update to a frsky receiver at that point. From what I understand those modules allow for the use of 1 antenna for all the 2.4. is that correct?
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