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3in1 / 4in1 RF module

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19 Oct 2016 08:08 #55128 by joeblack
joeblack replied the topic: 3in1 / 4in1 RF module
Would also like to buy a 4in1 module for my DEVO10.
I´m from Austria/Europe and TAOBAO doesn´t ship there.
My Question:
is there a way to buy such a 4in1 Modul for me now or do i have to wait until it´s available at Banggood or Aliexpress..... :woohoo: .

thanks in advance
joe

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19 Oct 2016 08:41 #55131 by ajtank
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It seems the other fellows used an agent called Taobao Focus to buy the module from China.

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19 Oct 2016 10:57 #55132 by DaveyP
DaveyP replied the topic: 3in1 / 4in1 RF module
Check my post (and others) www.deviationtx.com/forum/7-development/...dule?start=860#54118

As ajtank suggests, use Taobao Focus to do the transaction for you.. they even send pictures of the item so you can check it before they dispatch.

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19 Oct 2016 12:54 #55142 by epilot
epilot replied the topic: 3in1 / 4in1 RF module
The module is available on Banggood now.

4in1 module

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19 Oct 2016 13:59 #55143 by Elmtree
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I installed my 4in1 module, but I'm not sure if I need to enable the amps in the hardware.ini. Do I?

Thanks

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19 Oct 2016 14:32 #55147 by raketemensch
raketemensch replied the topic: 3in1 / 4in1 RF module

epilot wrote: The module is available on Banggood now.

4in1 module


Is this the new drop-in module? If so, I guess it needs a little soldering on the 7e, but I haven't seen a guide for it yet. I'd love to pick this up, but I'm not sure if I'd be capable of installing it yet.

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19 Oct 2016 15:02 #55148 by victzh
victzh replied the topic: 3in1 / 4in1 RF module
This "drop-in" module still requires soldering even in Devo 10. The small 3 position connection point should be soldered as shown on one of the pictures on Banggood.

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19 Oct 2016 15:04 - 19 Oct 2016 15:13 #55149 by ds864
ds864 replied the topic: 3in1 / 4in1 RF module
Yes me too. The picture on the site looks like the Devo 10.
I've been looking at this ( www.hacksmods.com/category/devo/ ) to see how to do each module but the 4 in 1 sounds like a better move. I just need some step-by-step instructions for the Devo 7e if this is compatible?

Do you have to remove the existing module? Will this then have a better range than the stock module?
Last Edit: 19 Oct 2016 15:13 by ds864.

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19 Oct 2016 15:28 #55150 by hexfet
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Elmtree wrote: I installed my 4in1 module, but I'm not sure if I need to enable the amps in the hardware.ini. Do I?

Thanks

Yes, enable the pa for all.

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19 Oct 2016 15:44 - 19 Oct 2016 15:44 #55151 by Fer
Fer replied the topic: 3in1 / 4in1 RF module
At last. It is available in Banggood. Of course i have already purchased mine (at a price of 55 euros with all the commisions and fees for the agent), but it is good to know that banggood now offers this module.

Until a better option appears, that solves the LNA problem with a hardware fix, this is the best option so far for DEVO 10 users.
Last Edit: 19 Oct 2016 15:44 by Fer.

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19 Oct 2016 15:46 #55152 by victzh
victzh replied the topic: 3in1 / 4in1 RF module
@ds864 - for installing 4-in-1 you need to remove existing module because 4-in-1 has CYRF6936 as well. It will have better range because it has PA - Power Amplifier - and though stock module has it also it is artificially limited.

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19 Oct 2016 15:55 #55154 by ajtank
ajtank replied the topic: 3in1 / 4in1 RF module

raketemensch wrote:

epilot wrote: The module is available on Banggood now.

4in1 module


Is this the new drop-in module? If so, I guess it needs a little soldering on the 7e, but I haven't seen a guide for it yet. I'd love to pick this up, but I'm not sure if I'd be capable of installing it yet.


This module is mounted on a carrier board which is designed specifically for Devo 10. For Devo 7E you need to get the module without the carrier board

For 7E it seems the 3-in-1 is more appropriate.

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19 Oct 2016 16:05 #55155 by victzh
victzh replied the topic: 3in1 / 4in1 RF module
3-in-1 still has problems with protocols using receiving part of RF - either telemetry or with auto-acknowledge. Today 4-in-1 is the best module to install despite higher cost. Devo 10 specific module is also suitable for 7E, there are instructions for this here (thanks, HappyHarry) www.deviationtx.com/forum/how-to/5955-7e...-4in1?start=20#50816

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19 Oct 2016 16:08 #55156 by HappyHarry
HappyHarry replied the topic: 3in1 / 4in1 RF module

ds864 wrote: Yes me too. The picture on the site looks like the Devo 10.
I've been looking at this ( www.hacksmods.com/category/devo/ ) to see how to do each module but the 4 in 1 sounds like a better move. I just need some step-by-step instructions for the Devo 7e if this is compatible?

Do you have to remove the existing module? Will this then have a better range than the stock module?


devo 4in1 fitting guide to the 7e is availabe here >> www.deviationtx.com/forum/how-to/5955-7e...he-devo-version-4in1

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19 Oct 2016 16:25 - 06 Mar 2017 06:04 #55157 by vlad_vy
vlad_vy replied the topic: 3in1 / 4in1 RF module
Summary of module connections (3 wires) (Devo 6, Devo 7e, Devo 10, Devo 8, Devo F12E, Devo 12):

7105 = TMS pad (A13)
2500 = TCK pad (A14)
2401 = ???

4in1 module pinout







Devo6

2401 = C10



hardware.ini
;Only useful for transmitters with an after-market vibration motor
;enable-haptic=1
;
;switch_types: 3x2, 3x1, 2x2
;extra-switches=
;
[modules]
; there is no need to enable the cyrf6936 module unless
; it is wired to an alternate port. It is Enabled automatically otherwise
enable-cyrf6936 = B12
has_pa-cyrf6936 = 1
enable-a7105 = A13
has_pa-a7105 = 1
enable-cc2500 = A14
has_pa-cc2500 = 1
enable-nrf24l01 = C10
has_pa-nrf24l01 = 1
; enable-multimod = A13

Devo7e

2401 = A15





hardware.ini
;Only useful for transmitters with an after-market vibration motor
;enable-haptic=1
;
;switch_types: 3x2, 3x1, 2x2
;extra-switches=
;
;button_types: trim-all, trim-(left|right)-(up|down|both)
;May occur more than once if necessary.
;extra-buttons=
;
[modules]
; there is no need to enable the cyrf6936 module unless
; it is wired to an alternate port. It is Enabled automatically otherwise
  enable-cyrf6936 = B12
  has_pa-cyrf6936 = 0
  enable-a7105    = A13
  has_pa-a7105    = 1
  enable-cc2500   = A14
  has_pa-cc2500   = 1
  enable-nrf24l01 = A15
  has_pa-nrf24l01 = 1
; enable-multimod = A13

Devo10

2401 = B7



hardware.ini
;Only useful for transmitters with an after-market vibration motor
;enable-haptic=1
;
;switch_types: 3x2, 3x1, 2x2
;extra-switches=
;
[modules]
; there is no need to enable the cyrf6936 module unless
; it is wired to an alternate port. It is Enabled automatically otherwise
enable-cyrf6936 = B12
has_pa-cyrf6936 = 1
enable-a7105 = A13
has_pa-a7105 = 1
enable-cc2500 = A14
has_pa-cc2500 = 1
enable-nrf24l01 = B7
has_pa-nrf24l01 = 1
; enable-multimod = A13

Devo8, Devo F12E (PCB looks slightly different but MCU and pin are the same)

2401 = B3



hardware.ini
;Only useful for transmitters with an after-market vibration motor
;enable-haptic=1
;
;switch_types: 3x2, 3x1, 2x2
;extra-switches=
;
[modules]
; there is no need to enable the cyrf6936 module unless
; it is wired to an alternate port. It is Enabled automatically otherwise
enable-cyrf6936 = B12
has_pa-cyrf6936 = 1
enable-a7105 = A13
has_pa-a7105 = 1
enable-cc2500 = A14
has_pa-cc2500 = 1
enable-nrf24l01 = B3
has_pa-nrf24l01 = 1
; enable-multimod = A13

Devo12

2401 = B3



hardware.ini
;Only useful for transmitters with an after-market vibration motor
;enable-haptic=1
;
;switch_types: 3x2, 3x1, 2x2
;extra-switches=
;
[modules]
; there is no need to enable the cyrf6936 module unless
; it is wired to an alternate port. It is Enabled automatically otherwise
enable-cyrf6936 = B12
has_pa-cyrf6936 = 1
enable-a7105 = A13
has_pa-a7105 = 1
enable-cc2500 = A14
has_pa-cc2500 = 1
enable-nrf24l01 = B3
has_pa-nrf24l01 = 1
; enable-multimod = A13
Last Edit: 06 Mar 2017 06:04 by vlad_vy.

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20 Oct 2016 07:37 #55181 by ds864
ds864 replied the topic: 3in1 / 4in1 RF module
Thanks for the help on this it still looks like a lot of work fitting the 4-in-1 into a 7e. I kind of like the idea of the 3-in-1 as I won't be touching the original module. This way if it all goes wrong I still have that module working (no worse off). But what are the issues with the 3-in-1 you mention?

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20 Oct 2016 08:48 #55182 by vlad_vy
vlad_vy replied the topic: 3in1 / 4in1 RF module
I'm not sure, but it looks like 3in1 has problem with LNA for A7105 and nRF24L01 chips.

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20 Oct 2016 13:59 #55190 by justyn07
justyn07 replied the topic: 3in1 / 4in1 RF module
i just order a 4 in 1 module from banggood and i never done the hardware ini. do you just copy paste the ini.

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20 Oct 2016 14:25 #55191 by vlad_vy
vlad_vy replied the topic: 3in1 / 4in1 RF module
You need UNIX style editor to edit *.ini files. For example, "Notepad+".

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20 Oct 2016 15:24 #55195 by justyn07
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thank you. i have notepad+.

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