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11 Feb 2013 15:55 #6259 by Resonance
Resonance created the topic: Help Hubsan X4
Dear all:
I have a Devo 8s with deviation 2.1.1, modified with v911 module. Though it binds with my hubsan X4 easily, all sticks, channels are not working(the throttle bar moves but nothing happened to the motors). I tried everything I know, rebuild a model, deviation 2.0, 2.1, even the model configs people posted on the board but in vain. The throttle just has no responds. I am sure that I installed deviation correctly for my super cp, mini cp, ladybirds are doing fine.
What can I do for the next ? Thanks.

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11 Feb 2013 20:19 #6279 by PhracturedBlue
PhracturedBlue replied the topic: Help Hubsan X4
do you see the proper channels moving if you look at the output-channel page (not the main page) Throttle is channel 3.
if so, post your tx.ini and your model.ini

If it binds, then it should fly.

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12 Feb 2013 03:49 #6292 by nanamo
nanamo replied the topic: Help Hubsan X4
I'm Japanese.
I have been using the machine translation does not understand English.
Please forgive me.

Are having the same problem as Mr. Resonance in DEVO6S too.
The module is A7105-500m.
Installing the module was referring to here.

www.deviationtx.com/forum/how-to/1228-fl...th-pics-devo-8s#4423

Exactly the same as Mr. Resonance, the motor I do not even turn up the throttle has been the bind.

I also check the channel setting.
I'll post a model.ini and tx.ini.

I I do not know what is wrong.

Please Help
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12 Feb 2013 04:14 #6293 by PhracturedBlue
PhracturedBlue replied the topic: Help Hubsan X4
Well, using the supplied ini, my X4 seems to work fine.
When you turn on the X4 and then the Tx, you see the lights flash and then go solid blue, and the tx detects the hubsan and exits binding mode? If so that implies that the module is properly installed and that your X4 behaves in some way differently to mine.

We do use random channel selection, so you might try power cycling the Rx/Tx to see if that helps.
I guess it is possible that they blacklisted my Txid in recent versions, since I hardcoded it in the code, but that honestly seems unlikely. Someone posted some info in the protocol thread on RCGroups, maybe I'll find something there.

I can try some variations and see if any of them help, but since I can't reproduce the issue, it will be hard for me to debug.

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12 Feb 2013 05:17 #6295 by nanamo
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I forgot to be important.
It is HiTEC Q4 Quadcopter which my body is sold in Japan, and there is.
It is OEM of Hubsan.

www.hitecrcd.co.jp/RC/weekender/Q4/index.htm

A logo of Hubsan becomes available to a main board and is printed with EA4000362.
A board does not have the notation of the version.

For your information.

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12 Feb 2013 07:26 #6297 by proteus
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I recently bought another X4, it is more recent (received last week), I just try it, it works fine.

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12 Feb 2013 13:53 #6305 by nanamo
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He buys a new main board and it tries it.

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12 Feb 2013 14:07 #6306 by PhracturedBlue
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I've built a test-build for you to try, but 1st you must move to the latest 'nightly' build, and install the nightly dfu and filesystem and test whether you still have the issues. Once you have the nightly installed and verified, you can install the following DFU which probably won't help, but you never know.
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12 Feb 2013 14:31 #6308 by nanamo
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dfu in deviation-devo6-hubsan.zip was installed.
A state does not change.
The display of a character is unusual.
devo6.elf carries out what?

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12 Feb 2013 14:37 #6311 by PhracturedBlue
PhracturedBlue replied the topic: Help Hubsan X4
you need this too:
www.deviationtx.com/repository/Deviation...o8-902f21aea8fe.zip/

that should fix the display.

ignore the elf file.

But if it didn't work, I am not sure how to proceed

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12 Feb 2013 15:40 #6319 by Resonance
Resonance replied the topic: Help Hubsan X4
Sorry for the late, it's Chinese New Year.

My main board printed with EA4000363 V3. Maybe it's a more latest version.

I just installed the nightly build but all the same. I can see all the output channels work while the corresponding sticks move without error report but nothing happened.

Sadly, maybe, they did change the protocol otherwise mine is a fake clone.

Anyway, thanks for your kindly help.
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12 Feb 2013 15:46 #6320 by nanamo
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I have not improved, either.
If a new base arrives, I try once again.
Thank you.

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13 Feb 2013 16:01 #6362 by stevecox
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I have just received a Hubsan today, I have the same problem, seems to bind but also I get no throttle. Devo8s with v911 mod, V2.1.0 using the ini files here. I will install the latest nightly just now and let you know, so far no throttle though. I have flown it sucessfully with the stock tx it came with.

Adelaide

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13 Feb 2013 16:58 #6364 by stevecox
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Just tried the nightly deviation-devo8-3f20e88faf66 and can confirm there is still no throttle, tx shows outputs on the screen correctly.

Adelaide

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13 Feb 2013 18:54 - 13 Feb 2013 18:55 #6368 by PhracturedBlue
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So it appears they changed the protocol.
Not much I can do to help except to get my hands on one of these new X4. Since there is no guarantee when ordering what I'll get, I'm not inclined to buy a 2nd.

So that leaves us with:
1) someone sells me one of their non-functional X4s
2) Someone (in the US) loans me one of their non-functional X4s
3) someone with a Logic Analyzer captures the traces so I can see the differences
Last Edit: 13 Feb 2013 18:55 by PhracturedBlue.

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13 Feb 2013 19:50 - 13 Feb 2013 19:59 #6370 by stevecox
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:-) I am in South Africa so a bit far for the loan or sending one, the logic analyzer is a maybe but no time soon just yet unfortunately. Will just have to hang in there. In the meantime for the record, here is some info on my hardware, on the motherboard tx is printed EA4000166, then on the rx board is printed EA4000363 then the rx board component side is attached - not too clear on the photo the ic numbers so I wrote alongside.
www.dig.co.za/images/HubsanX4.jpg

Adelaide
Last Edit: 13 Feb 2013 19:59 by stevecox. Reason: couldnt attach picture

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05 Mar 2013 10:28 - 05 Mar 2013 11:48 #7381 by MolaMolaFalcon
MolaMolaFalcon replied the topic: Help Hubsan X4
Hi PhracturedBlue,
I have the same problem with my Devo 10 with deviation 2.1.1 firmware and v911 mod.

I have a functional EA4000362 board, a non-functional EA4000362 board and a non-functional EA4000363V3-4812 board. They are all functional with a stock Tx (This Tx came with my first and only RTF X4 which has EA4000362 board).

If you don't have non-functional X4 yet,
I can loan you my non-functional EA4000362 board (board only ;) ) by Airmail from Japan.
What do you think ?
Last Edit: 05 Mar 2013 11:48 by MolaMolaFalcon.

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05 Mar 2013 14:36 #7388 by PhracturedBlue
PhracturedBlue replied the topic: Help Hubsan X4
That is interesting. so there is something in the protocol that I'm missing if they all work with the same Tx.
Sure if you want to loan me one of your boards, I'll take a look. I'll PM you the info

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05 Mar 2013 17:07 - 05 Mar 2013 17:25 #7391 by vlad_vy
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Anybody tried increase throttle channel scale? For example -110 ~ +110. It is possible that model ESC calibrated to more throttle travel and board doesn't initialise properly, it can consider that throttle is too high.

Also, you can try switch on Tx, full throttle, then connect flight battery, wait model initialisation, then lower throttle to minimum and disconnect battery. Sometimes it helps calibrate ESC in others micro models.
Last Edit: 05 Mar 2013 17:25 by vlad_vy.

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05 Mar 2013 18:07 #7392 by stevecox
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Nope on these, I also tried variants of the scale, tried different ID. tried no ID, tried all this also with THR up or DOWN, or bind with THR up and then lower as you say similar to some small micro helis but nothing.

I must mention the X4 does definately bind, if you plug in the battery the blue lights in front of the X4 flash until you tx reinit/bind then they go solid and the tx beeps once.

Adelaide

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