Walkera CP Helicopters - Standard Settings

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10 Apr 2013 02:15 - 30 Apr 2014 14:55 #8812 by Tom Z
This model will work on the following helicopters.
  • Walkera V120D02S
  • Walkera V120D02S V2
  • Walkera Mini CP
  • Walkera Super CP
  • Walkera Genius CP V1/V2
  • Walkera V100D08

  • *If you are using the V120D02S, V120D02S V2, Genius CP V1 with the WK-2801 Pro compatible Receiver change Protocol=DEVO to Protocol=WK2801.



    Model 8 is for deviation firmware v4 and the DEVO 6/6S/8/8S/10/12/12S.

    Model 8-2 has Zero Degree Pitch when throttle hold is on.
    This will help minimize damage in a crash as the swash and blades will be at mid stick zero degrees pitch.
    This will also help prevent a boom strike.
    The swash does not move when TH is on.
    If you want control of the swash in TH to help you land in a crash don’t use this model use Model 8 instead.



    Model 5 is for deviation firmware v3 and the Devo 8/8S/12.

    Model 13 is for deviation firmware v3 and the Devo 10.

    See the post below this for the Devo 6S Model.


    I have test flown this model using deviation firmware v2.1, v3, v4 in my Devo 10.


Fixed ID

My model does not use a Fixed ID.
If you used a Fixed ID with the original Walkera firmware you must clear the Fixed ID in the Receiver with the Bind Plug.
If you don't clear the Fixed ID the model will not bind.

If you want to use a Fixed ID you can enter the same Fixed ID you had for the original Walkera firmware.

Example: Your original Walkera firmware Fixed ID was: 123456

Assign the Deviation Fixed ID: 123456

You can also assign any Fixed ID that you want to use. You don't have to use the original Walkera firmware Fixed ID. Clear the Fixed ID in the Receiver with the Bind Plug then assign any Fixed ID that you want to use.



  • Throttle hold on the RUDD D/R switch.
  • 7 Point Throttle and Pitch Curves.
  • TX Power=100mW
  • Channels=7
  • Protocol=DEVO
  • No Fixed ID
  • Stick Mode 2
  • If you need Stick Mode 1, 3, or 4 load the model into your transmitter then change the Stick Mode in the transmitter settings.



Throttle Curve

Normal: Linear Curve

ST-1: V Shaped Throttle Curve

ST-2: 100% Flat Across


Throttle Hold is active on RUDD D/R switch




Pitch Curve

Normal: -3* negative pitch. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick.

ST-1: Full +/- 3D pitch curve. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick.

ST-2: Full +/- 3D pitch curve. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick.


Gyro Gain

64% for Normal and Stunt modes. This value is equal to the Walkera firmware value of 82% gyro gain.



DR/EXPO

Adjust D/R and EXPO to your personal preference.


Switch Position

0- ELEV D/R = 70% EXP +30%

0- AILE D/R = 70% EXP +30%

RUDD D/R = 100% EXP -10%



Switch Position

1- ELEV D/R = 100% EXP LIN

1- AILE D/R = 100% EXP LIN

RUDD D/R = 100% EXP -10%






Download the Configuration Settings File.

Right click the "model.ini " and select "Save Target As" or "Save Link As" depending if you are using IE or Firefox.

Install the configuration settings file into your models folder (See my How to video below).

This will over-right the current file so make sure that model slot doesn’t
have a model being used in it. If it does rename the configuration settings file
to another number that you have free.

Example: The file you downloaded is named model5 so change the “5" to another slot
number that you don’t have a model setup for. If you have model slot 6 open rename the file to model6





How to Import/Export Deviation Firmware Models








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12 Apr 2013 21:49 - 01 Feb 2014 17:45 #8907 by Tom Z
Replied by Tom Z on topic Walkera CP Helicopters - Standard Settings
This model is for the Devo 6S only.



1. 7 Point Throttle and Pitch Curves.

2. TX Power=100mW

3. Channels=7

4. Protocol=DEVO

5. No Fixed ID

6. Mode 2

7. FMOD switch - for stunt modes

8. DR switch - for aile & ele dual rates

9. Gear switch - for throttle hold, Position 1 is held

10. MIX switch - is free to use for what you want




This model is for deviation firmware v3.





Throttle Curve

Normal Mode: Linear Curve

ST- 1: V Shaped Throttle Curve

ST- 2: 100% Flat Across


Throttle Hold is active on RUDD D/R switch




Pitch Curve

Normal Mode: -3* negative pitch. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick.

ST- 1: Full +/- 3D pitch curve. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick.

ST- 2: Full +/- 3D pitch curve. Zero degrees pitch at mid stick.


Gyro gain is set to 64% for Normal and Stunt modes. This value is equal to the Walkera firmware value of 82% gyro gain.



DR/EXPO

Adjust D/R and EXPO to your personal needs/preference.

I have these settings included in the model file.



Switch Position

0- ELEV D/R = 80% EXP +30%

0- AILE D/R = 80% EXP +30%

RUDD D/R = 100% EXP -10%



Switch Position

1- ELEV D/R = 100% EXP +30%

1- AILE D/R = 100% EXP +30%

RUDD D/R = 100% EXP -10%





Thanks JJ1984 for testing the model for me on on your Devo 6S and taking the time to customize it for us.



Download the Configuration Settings File.

Right click the "model.ini " and select "Save Target As" or "Save Link As" depending if you are using IE or Firefox.

Install the configuration settings file into your models folder (See my How to video below).

This will over-right the current file so make sure that model slot doesn’t
have a model being used in it. If it does rename the configuration settings file
to another number that you have free.

Example: The file you downloaded is named model5 so change the “5" to another slot
number that you don’t have a model setup for. If you have model slot 6 open rename the file to model6





How to Import/Export Deviation Firmware Models



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05 Sep 2013 10:03 #13554 by KyC
HI,
I use DEVO 7E for my super CP.
I Don't know how to set the channel/ mix for my model.
My model always makes cycle.... (the tail can't be stable)
Can you teach me how to set?
My target: 3D fly and TH hold~~

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05 Sep 2013 11:10 #13555 by rbe2012
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You should be able to use the Devo6 model (you will loose the order of objects on the main screen).
You can use the Devo10 model, but the 7e has less switches so some functions will be put together.
Download them and take a look into; perhaps try with unmounted blades.

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12 Sep 2013 01:40 - 12 Sep 2013 02:29 #13718 by jazzjohn
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Tom, I'm a little confused about using channel 7 for the gyro on a 6 channel Devo 6 transmitter ...or more confusing on a 6 channel receiver ( I assume) in a Genius CP. Is it because the rcx doesn't have a channel 5 so even with a channel 7 there is only 6 channels?

Edit: I just tried it on channel 7 to confirm and, yes, channel 7 does control the gyro (I set one position to <50 and the LED goes out on the rcx.) Still confused :huh:
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12 Sep 2013 04:07 #13720 by FDR
Your DEVO 6 is not limited to six channels anymore. It can send up to 12 channels...

Even the "4 channel" Ladybird uses the Ch7...

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12 Sep 2013 17:03 #13736 by jazzjohn
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Yes, I know Deviation adds channels, but is it true that the stock Devo 6 firmware actually uses more than 6 channels in order to control the Genius, Ladybird, etc.?

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12 Sep 2013 17:39 #13739 by FDR
The stock DEVO 6 uses Ch5 for the gyro.

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12 Sep 2013 21:35 #13744 by jazzjohn
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Hmmm... still confusing. I thought what channel the gyro uses is a function of the receiver design.

Does the rcx look on both channel 5 and 7 for gyro info?

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13 Sep 2013 04:21 #13755 by FDR
Yep.
If the number of channels is 6 (or 5, but there is no such transmitter), then the rx will use ch5 for the gyro, otherwise it uses ch7.

Recently it worked like that in deviation too: if you set it to be 6 channels, then you had to use ch5 for the gyro, but it has changed. I think now it sends out at least 8 channels to avoid this confusion...

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13 Sep 2013 14:56 #13761 by jazzjohn
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Ahh... confusion eliminated. Thanks!

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16 Oct 2013 02:41 - 17 Oct 2013 02:23 #14678 by Jasen
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Will these settings work for a brushless Super CP?
update: I took my brushless SCP over to the school, and gave it a go with these settings. :woohoo: I am a happy flyer. Devo 8 with Deviation is a sweet combo
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25 Feb 2014 08:25 #20854 by brad1601
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Hi Tom,

Firstly I'd like to thank you for the trouble you go to for posting all these settings up for us all to use.

Secondly, I have been having a weird problem with these settings and my mini cp. Basically whenever I do a hard pitch pump my mini cp spins out of control. Just really fast 360's.

It never used to do this with the standard walkers firmware, I've been back to standard and then back to devation twice just to make sure, so to me, from my noob perspective it seems to be something to do with deviation/these settings. Another weird thing is my master CP using these exact settings works perfectly, no 360's.

Any ideas?

Thanks!! :)

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25 Feb 2014 13:37 #20859 by Tom Z
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Hi,
Your welcome.
The model works well including pitch pumps on my Mini CP BL, Master CP, and V120D02S V2.

Which model number are you using and what version deviation firmware do you have?

The only thing I can think of is your Mini CP needs more gyro gain. I have it set at 82% Walkera value for all flight modes.

Make sure your trims are centered and calibrate the sticks.
Make sure your tail blade is not damaged/cracked/split/bent or slipping on the motor shaft.
As a test you can try my 3D settings model or a model made by someone else and see if you have the same issue with your Mini CP.

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26 Feb 2014 09:18 #20882 by brad1601
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Tom Z wrote: Hi,
Your welcome.
The model works well including pitch pumps on my Mini CP BL, Master CP, and V120D02S V2.

Which model number are you using and what version deviation firmware do you have?

The only thing I can think of is your Mini CP needs more gyro gain. I have it set at 82% Walkera value for all flight modes.

Make sure your trims are centered and calibrate the sticks.
Make sure your tail blade is not damaged/cracked/split/bent or slipping on the motor shaft.
As a test you can try my 3D settings model or a model made by someone else and see if you have the same issue with your Mini CP.


Thanks for the quick reply Tom,

I tried changing the gyro gain this afternoon, I put the gyro gain up from 64 to 70 and no change... in fact almost worse, maybe, its hard to tell. I also checked the tail rotor was ok, it seems alright but just in case I swapped the whole tail set out for a brand new spare I had, still no different. I've calibrated the sticks too.

:( no luck so far... defiantly a strange one as my master CP works perfectly with these settings, I'm starting to wonder if its something wrong with my mini cp. Though other than hard pitch pumps it flys pretty well... if you have anything else I can check I'd be appreciative.

oh and I'm running the latest devation 4.0.1 and using model 8 - 2014

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26 Feb 2014 15:00 - 27 Feb 2014 00:00 #20888 by Tom Z
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Your welcome.

To double check things I just download the model from the first post and tired it in my Mini CP BL. I have an very powerful HP05S BL outrunner motor with a headspeed running at 5,760 RPM.
My tail holds rock solid in full all out pitch pumps.

There is an issue with your Mini CP but I don't know what it could be.
The best test you did was to replace the entire tail set with a new one. This rules out any problem with the other motor, blade, solder connection, etc.

The 70% gyro value you used equals the walkera gyro value of 85%.

If I can think of anything else for you to try/check I'll let you know.

I still recommend as a test to try a model made by someone else and see if you have the same issue or not with your Mini CP.
If you find out that your tail doesn't blowout in pitch pumps using a different model you should use that model. The only difference between models that could cause your issue only in the Mini CP would be the gyro gain amount needs to be fine tuned for your Mini CP. I would try values from 44% to 80%.
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17 Mar 2014 22:15 #21630 by kvnwhite75
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Tom, Is there anyway to reload mini cp config file back to Devo 7 TX. I have the UP-02 and adapter, already updated TX and getting ready to do RX but walkeras site isnt working for me. I reset my radio so lost the mini cp settings and tried numerous times setting stock settings in radio manually with no real luck. I am hoping to download and install config files via UP-02 tool?

Thanks

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18 Mar 2014 18:40 #21648 by linux-user
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Don't mix up Devo7 and Devo7e
Devo7 isn't supported by Deviation.
Currently supported by deviation: DEVO 6/6S/7e/8/8S/10/12/12S

Maybe the Devo7 model editor does help you to setup your model.
www.ts-soft.de/Devo7/

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18 Mar 2014 20:22 #21651 by kvnwhite75
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Yes, i understand that deviation is not applicable to Devo 7 (YAY) which is horrible, but should I not be able to download the original config file somewhere and upload it to the TX via UP02 software?

Thanks

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18 Mar 2014 21:37 - 18 Mar 2014 21:43 #21653 by linux-user
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These are from my Devo7
"2-Gen12.bin" is close to the original GeniusCP
"2-MCP1.bin" is beginner setting for MiniCP, with Throttle-Hold and very little negative Pitch
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