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21 Oct 2016 09:40 #55247 by mike_j
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Well, that was a bit of a shock! :lol:

The only thing that really bothers me is the space the Main Menu takes up on the left hand side of the screen. It takes up 1/3 of the width leaving the forum itself in what remains.

I know it's always been like that, but it's a terrible use of the screen's real estate.

If the menu wasn't shown on the left after you click the 'Forum' link, the new style would work much better and it would be possible to see more of the thread's posts on one screen. What with most computers using widescreen displays these days, anything that can get more information in vertically would be really appreciated!
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21 Oct 2016 12:40 #55252 by RoGuE_StreaK
Replied by RoGuE_StreaK on topic Forum upgrade ???

FDR wrote: If you want to help the styling process, please list your concrete complaints against this style, and the positives too!

As per everyone else, "too much white" is the first point.
Getting into some quick tweaks;
- buttons have too much vertical space, change .btn style to have line-height: 10px (currently 20px)
- "FDR replied the topic..."; either get rid of it (kinda pointless), or greatly reduce size and space. Merge inline with post time if possible
- .alert, change margin-bottom: 5px (currently 20px), add line-height and font-size tags to greatly reduce the space taken

Also in general there seems to be a lot of space used up the top before getting to the actual posts, can't remember how it was before but I don't think it was anywhere near that much. Though the above alert and btn style changes could make a slight positive impact on that.
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21 Oct 2016 13:14 #55253 by vlad_vy
Replied by vlad_vy on topic Forum upgrade ???
There is a blessing in disguise, I cured the Firefox with Windows XP problem by a clean installation the latest Firefox version.
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21 Oct 2016 13:21 - 21 Oct 2016 14:12 #55254 by goebish
Replied by goebish on topic Forum upgrade ???
If I start to write a message after clicking "Quick reply" then click to open the editor, the message is lost (fortunately I'm using Lazarus addon on Firefox).

This is a bit OOT as this as nothing to do with the design, but as you're working on the forum, maybe this can be useful.

Since a few months:
- I never receive email notifications for private messages
- Sometimes (~20% ?) I don't receive thread reply notifications either
- Seems my status is always offline, even if I click "+ Online" in the drop down menu

Please allow more than 4 (or 6 ? I can't remember) urls per post, it is pretty limiting since even /img tags count as an url.

And last thing, is it possible to use avatars ? (gravatar if space on the server is an issue).
I think it adds a lot to readability when browsing a thread.
Last edit: 21 Oct 2016 14:12 by goebish.
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21 Oct 2016 13:44 #55255 by karl.h
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mike_j wrote: Well, that was a bit of a shock! :lol:

The only thing that really bothers me is the space the Main Menu takes up on the left hand side of the screen. It takes up 1/3 of the width leaving the forum itself in what remains.

I know it's always been like that, but it's a terrible use of the screen's real estate.


Actually, text becomes very hard to read if its too wide. What size screen are you on? On my 11" macbook air I use 125% zoom setting (which makes the forum text narrower) on this site for improved readability. The menu then occupies about 1/4 of the screen width.

Also, what RoGuE_StreaK said.
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21 Oct 2016 21:46 #55264 by Thomas.Heiss
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Please add auto-save text feature on quick reply and reply text input message fields.

www.rc-network.de forum also has that feature.

You can recover a lost input message by blicking on a text box below saying "recover automatically saved text" once you loose the input text, change window url (e.g back), close the browser, loose server connection, etc.
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23 Oct 2016 01:18 #55292 by Richard96816
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Wow!!! This is so cool!

Not really. A little shocking, perhaps. Why does it start off in red font? Yikes.

It's certainly different.

Upgrades aren't usually quite this radical.

Which software package is this?

Thanks for your efforts at keeping things running, btw.
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23 Oct 2016 06:34 #55297 by FDR
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Richard96816 wrote: Wow!!! This is so cool!

Not really. A little shocking, perhaps. Why does it start off in red font? Yikes.

It's certainly different.

Upgrades aren't usually quite this radical.

Which software package is this?

Thanks for your efforts at keeping things running, btw.

Where do you see red fonts? I don't see any red fonts...
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23 Oct 2016 08:37 #55302 by Richard96816
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FDR wrote:

Richard96816 wrote: Wow!!! This is so cool!

Not really. A little shocking, perhaps. Why does it start off in red font? Yikes.

It's certainly different.

Upgrades aren't usually quite this radical.

Which software package is this?

Thanks for your efforts at keeping things running, btw.

Where do you see red fonts? I don't see any red fonts...


Everything was in red when I started entering the post. All changed to black when I forced one line to black. Odd behavior.
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23 Oct 2016 20:21 #55317 by FDR
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I see. It is strange indeed.

In the meantime I condensed the layout a bit, especially the topic lists.
I know it's a slow advance, but I don't have too much time...
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24 Oct 2016 00:13 #55321 by Richard96816
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goebish wrote: If I start to write a message after clicking "Quick reply" then click to open the editor, the message is lost (fortunately I'm using Lazarus addon on Firefox).
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Just added Lazarus to my Firefox ... knew those tools were out there, keep forgetting to look.

Thanks.


(The Write/Preview tabs do seem like a minor improvement ...)
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24 Oct 2016 14:14 #55333 by vlad_vy
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goebish wrote: - Seems my status is always offline, even if I click "+ Online" in the drop down menu


Check settings: Profile -> Edit -> Forum settings -> Show Online=Yes
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24 Oct 2016 14:17 - 24 Oct 2016 14:22 #55334 by goebish
Replied by goebish on topic Forum upgrade ???
It's already set to Yes.
I swear I'm online right now :P

Oh well, not a big deal, and I see FDR already made some good work :)

The only thing that really annoys me is that I don't receive email notifications for PM, but this has been like that for months, well before the upgrade.
Last edit: 24 Oct 2016 14:22 by goebish.
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24 Oct 2016 14:21 - 24 Oct 2016 14:23 #55335 by vlad_vy
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For me it work. If I set Profile -> Edit -> Forum settings -> Show Online=No, I'm always "Offline".

Try to change to "No", save settings, change to "Yes", save settings.
Last edit: 24 Oct 2016 14:23 by vlad_vy.
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24 Oct 2016 14:23 - 24 Oct 2016 14:24 #55336 by goebish
Replied by goebish on topic Forum upgrade ???
I also tried to toggle it off then on again, also clicked "Clear Cache" but there's nothing to do.
Last edit: 24 Oct 2016 14:24 by goebish.
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24 Oct 2016 14:26 #55337 by goebish
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Fixed !
I feel dumb, the problem was on my side, I only had to clear my cookies :)
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24 Oct 2016 17:12 #55345 by Cereal_Killer
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Hello, oh look red for me too...

So i notice the forum us very different between my tablet (samsung note, chrome for browser) vs my phone (galaxy s6 "internet" browser cause i dont like chrome on the small screen)

Im typing this (in red by default) on the note3. Now it switched to black by its self while typing. .. Anyway same screen shots from phone coming next
Taranis X9E | DEVO 10 | Devo U7E | Taranis Q7

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24 Oct 2016 17:15 #55346 by Cereal_Killer
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Phone screen shots
Taranis X9E | DEVO 10 | Devo U7E | Taranis Q7

What I do in real life: rivergoequestrian.com/
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24 Oct 2016 17:20 #55347 by FDR
Replied by FDR on topic Forum upgrade ???

goebish wrote: The only thing that really annoys me is that I don't receive email notifications for PM, but this has been like that for months, well before the upgrade.

PB switched off the PM email notifications long time ago, when somebody cracked the site and used it to send out spams.
There are some vulnerabilities in the PM component, which is unsafe to use...
However the email notifications about new forum posts should work.

goebish wrote: Oh well, not a big deal, and I see FDR already made some good work :)

I will not stop here, but the progress is rather slow.
I'm almost finished with the recent topics list, but there is still a lot of things need to be done on the posts listing and editing...
I will alter the color scheme after that...

I don't know yet how to get rid of the "XX replied the topic: ..." thing, because that isn't separately stored in the HTML, but in one attribute value...


BTW does somebody have screenshots of the old forum? It would be handy...
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24 Oct 2016 17:25 - 24 Oct 2016 17:31 #55348 by goebish
Replied by goebish on topic Forum upgrade ???

FDR wrote: BTW does somebody have screenshots of the old forum? It would be handy...


web.archive.org/web/20160408085936/http:...-new-frskyx-protocol (some elements are missing as that's not possible to login, obviously)
web.archive.org/web/20160401094147/http:...protocol-development

Ok for PM notification, I had missed the information.
Last edit: 24 Oct 2016 17:31 by goebish.
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