Devo 12s 3in1 / 4in1 RF module neat installation.

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24 Nov 2016 18:43 #56258 by vmsda
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dat wrote: Hi victzh
yes , i have try fine math -127 to +127 with coarse 0 from The fist i begin setup,
i add +5 math up untill +127 , and -5 down to -127 step by btep , many many cycle rounds
just like in forum many people post ,
but it all failed.
when i fell tired that way , ~suddenlly~ , a thought float in my brain ,
try coarse , give it a chance , And ~~ bingo done ...

Thks, DAT, today tried that too with the K110, no luck.

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25 Nov 2016 01:41 #56263 by wasp09
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victzh wrote: Judging by the code, Deviation Skyartec can bind in the first 6 minutes :-) If you can try it and verify that would be nice. We can reduce this to a more reasonable 1 minute or so.

I did not test stock S-FHSS TX - I did not have the original when I was implementing it. There is no word in the documentation about it.


Yes, verified that on my devo 10 with X303V. It can bind at around 5.5 minutes but not after 6.5 minutes. Those 6 minutes were so long that they felt like eternity...

I have no objections either way, cut it down or leave it as is.

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25 Nov 2016 07:16 - 25 Nov 2016 07:17 #56267 by dat
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hi vmsda
sorry hear that, but don't giveup keep more trying , Good luck !
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25 Nov 2016 21:42 #56279 by Arnold
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victzh wrote: @Arnold, F4 is exactly what refuses to work with it right now :-)


You have all my encouragement :woohoo: !

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26 Nov 2016 16:22 - 26 Nov 2016 16:38 #56305 by vmsda
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victzh wrote: @vmsda,
your module is probably misconfigured or defective. To exclude the former you need to give us some info to decide upon.

Publish your hardware.ini file's contents here, and take a look at how the module installed - take photos of its soldering to the board.

No point in "trying" right now, nothing changed since your first try.

Further to my Post #56254, I managed to take better photos of the "bowels" of the 7E. Besides the thoughtful workmanship, one of them actually shows the soldering to the MCU in appreciable detail.


Looking forward to your feedback. Thanks again.
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26 Nov 2016 17:18 #56306 by HappyHarry
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what colour wires go to the three pins on the bottom right of the 4in1?

7105=?
2500=?
2401=?

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26 Nov 2016 18:11 - 27 Nov 2016 11:51 #56310 by vmsda
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HappyHarry wrote: what colour wires go to the three pins on the bottom right of the 4in1?

7105=?
2500=?
2401=?


7105 = black
2500 = brown
2401 = red

ADDENDA: in the meantime, I have had the opportunity to test an Hisky HCP100S and a Syma X9, and in both cases got a Bind on the first try, so the 2401 seems ok.
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27 Nov 2016 09:50 - 27 Nov 2016 10:07 #56313 by victzh
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OK, promised photos of my adapter. So far it works in Devo 10, Devo 7E and Radiolink AT9 (sort of, so far as Radiolink code works at all).

This is how the board with mounted 4-in-1, bare board, and Devo 7E/AT9 adapter look like:


This is how adapter board is mounted in Devo 7E


Now with 4-in-1 module inserted


Adapter mounted in Radiolink AT9


4-in-1 in AT9
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27 Nov 2016 15:22 #56315 by mdmbc
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Looks great! Any chance you'd share your gerbers or design files so I could order some?

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27 Nov 2016 16:33 #56316 by Arnold
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victzh wrote: ... So far it works in Devo 10, Devo 7E and Radiolink AT9 (sort of, so far as Radiolink code works at all)...


What about 6S, 8S, 12S & F Series, please?

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27 Nov 2016 18:25 #56317 by vmsda
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victzh wrote: OK, promised photos of my adapter. So far it works in Devo 10, Devo 7E and Radiolink AT9 (sort of, so far as Radiolink code works at all)...

I am sorry not to have followed this topic at all. A simple question: in what way does this adapter complement the functionality afforded by the 4in1 RF module?

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27 Nov 2016 19:11 #56318 by victzh
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@mdmbc, sure, but it needs another, fifth round of review - one footprint is hard to solder manually and 3.3v power supply is routed to apparently busy pin - IRQ. It is not used in any of existing Devos (I still need to check Devo 12S which I have and Devo 12E which is coming this Friday), but marked, so we better move to another unused pin. It is probably harmless, but anyway.

@Arnold - 6S, 8S, 12S should just work, I can test on 12S myself, I don't have 6 and 8. F is more stubborn for some reason, and it's complicated by my inability so far to dump the bootloader - to debug it properly I need to erase MCU to unprotect it and thus need to dump bootloader first to restore it. I'm working on it, but it is still not there.

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27 Nov 2016 19:30 #56319 by victzh

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27 Nov 2016 19:38 - 27 Nov 2016 19:40 #56320 by Arnold
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victzh wrote: ... 6S, 8S, 12S should just work ...

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Great!
Have you decided if you will be offering just the board, or board populated with module, or maybe both ways? third party vendor?

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27 Nov 2016 19:47 #56321 by ursus69
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Arnold wrote:

victzh wrote: ... 6S, 8S, 12S should just work ...

]

Great!
Have you decided if you will be offering just the board, or board populated with module, or maybe both ways? third party vendor?


+1
Looks great!!!

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27 Nov 2016 21:07 #56323 by victzh
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Works on Devo 12S.

Originally the plan was I will pass this to the maker of 4-in-1 module and he'll produce it as it is.

But for impatient I have several "motherboards" from previous versions - they're not too different from the final version (which is to be reworked by 4-in-1 module guy anyways to adapt to his process). I would sell them - board with logic, power supply SPI flash, and U.fl for antenna - I have 3 with antenna header on back side and several more with antenna header on the front side as on regular module. It doesn't have 4-in-1 module mounted, so some soldering is required. It's not that hard though. Also, 4-in-1 module has RF shield which tabs are outstanding on the back side. As my manufacturer can't do slots that small I omitted them at all - you need cut these 1mm tabs off with side cutters.

Also there is an adapter for 7E/AT9 - board with connector on it.

What would you pay for such board(s)? I'd be glad to recuperate some amount spent on development of all of this, at least materials.

And, unfortunately, I can't provide any guarantee - I try to make it work and so far it works on everything except F series - working on it - but as some assembly required it's not guaranteed.

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28 Nov 2016 00:10 #56327 by fredskidoo
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vmsda wrote:

HappyHarry wrote: what colour wires go to the three pins on the bottom right of the 4in1?

7105=?
2500=?
2401=?


7105 = black
2500 = brown
2401 = red

ADDENDA: in the meantime, I have had the opportunity to test an Hisky HCP100S and a Syma X9, and in both cases got a Bind on the first try, so the 2401 seems ok.


My question is what solder points on the Devo 10 do these 3 wires go to? I have yet to find it explained in detail anywhere on this forum. I've had the 4in1 module from Banggood sitting here in front of me for 4 days searching for a concise guide to the install. All I find is that it plugs in with no soldering required...but it comes with three short black wires in it's static free baggy. Please advise and thanks to all . . . I love my deviated Devo 10!

Ethan

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28 Nov 2016 01:05 - 28 Nov 2016 01:06 #56328 by Arnold
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fredskidoo wrote: ... My question is what solder points on the Devo 10 do these 3 wires go to? ...

Vlad_vy posted comment #55157 in this thread. Take a look at the Devo10 picture.

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28 Nov 2016 05:13 #56334 by fredskidoo
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Awesome - there it is plain as day!

Thanks for your assist Arnold

Ethan

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28 Nov 2016 05:56 #56336 by dc59
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victzh wrote: OK, promised photos of my adapter. So far it works in Devo 10, Devo 7E and Radiolink AT9 (sort of, so far as Radiolink code works at all).


It looks awesome! :woohoo:

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