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Logic Analyzer SPI Capture for PROPEL 74-z

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13 Jun 2019 23:59 #74526 by hexfet
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Thanks, the videos are helpful.

Test build ( aad6669 ) is updated. Didn't find much when I went back through the captures. Main change is to add some debug info as telemetry values. If it still sticks on the bind screen, please click ENT and navigate to the Telemetry monitor screen. Video's probably the best way to show what's happening there.

Stopping at the bind dialog means the tx is not receiving any data from the quad. One thing to try would be to move the transmitter away from the quad at least a couple of meters. Also use the lowest tx power setting (re-init after changing power).
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14 Jun 2019 13:06 - 14 Jun 2019 16:10 #74530 by RAY123
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The test build aad6669 doesn't work.Later, I uploaded video.I'm going to re-weld the bk2425 and recapture the data.I think there might be a welding error or a short circuit.
Last edit: 14 Jun 2019 16:10 by RAY123.
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14 Jun 2019 15:59 - 14 Jun 2019 16:05 #74535 by RAY123
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Test build aad6669 can't open Telemetry screen.
Propel protocol no telemetry submenu.
Last edit: 14 Jun 2019 16:05 by RAY123.
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14 Jun 2019 19:49 #74536 by Alf-1234
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Ich habe heute abend jetzt auch die Propel Version aad6669 auf meinem Jumper T8SG installiert.
Leider konnte ich meinen Propel Speederbike nicht mit meinem Jumper binden.
Ein Telemetrie Bildschirm wird auch bei mir nicht angezeigt.


I also installed the Propel version aad6669 on my T8SG jumper tonight.
Unfortunately I could not tie my Propel Speederbike with my jumper.
A telemetry screen is not displayed even with me.
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14 Jun 2019 21:36 #74537 by hexfet
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That's strange. It's working the in the 7E emulator. No protocol option necessary.

Please try downloading from this link . I rebuilt the firmware (same version number) in case I made some error in the build process before.
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14 Jun 2019 21:48 #74538 by Alf-1234
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Wo finde ich denn den 7E Emulator im Jumper T8SG??

Oder habe ich da etwas falsch verstanden???


Where can I find the 7E emulator in the jumper T8SG ??

Or have I misunderstood something???
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15 Jun 2019 00:18 - 15 Jun 2019 00:19 #74539 by hexfet
Replied by hexfet on topic logic analyzer SPI Capture for propel 74-z
Please test the t8sg build at the latest link above. Just tested on my t8sg plus and the telemetry is there. If you can please upload a video somewhere and post a link.

I don't have a 7e so just tested with an emulator build. Those are not uploaded.
Last edit: 15 Jun 2019 00:19 by hexfet.
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15 Jun 2019 02:14 #74540 by RAY123
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15 Jun 2019 03:18 #74541 by hexfet
Replied by hexfet on topic Logic Analyzer SPI Capture for PROPEL 74-z
Thanks. The video confirms no data is received from the quad. Have you tried with a couple meters separation between tx and quad, and reduced power setting?
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15 Jun 2019 03:39 - 15 Jun 2019 16:12 #74542 by RAY123
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hexfet wrote: Thanks. The video confirms no data is received from the quad. Have you tried with a couple meters separation between tx and quad, and reduced power setting?

Yes, I use 1mw and with a couple meters separation between tx and quad ,the same .:cheer:
Last edit: 15 Jun 2019 16:12 by RAY123.
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15 Jun 2019 15:36 #74543 by RAY123
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Re-weld Capture1(1Tsamples-24Mhz):https://www.mediafire.com/download/hn2nnltn7othp78
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18 Jun 2019 02:52 #74562 by hexfet
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Thanks. The bind sequences in this capture are all the same, but slightly different than the previous two captures.

Test build is updated ( abc5dcf ). No major change but a couple of tweaks. Trying to figure out which bits are important and which are not.
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18 Jun 2019 05:51 #74563 by RAY123
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hexfet wrote: Thanks. The bind sequences in this capture are all the same, but slightly different than the previous two captures.

Test build is updated ( abc5dcf ). No major change but a couple of tweaks. Trying to figure out which bits are important and which are not.

abc5dcf doesn't work,video like aad6669.:lol: :lol:
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18 Jun 2019 09:13 #74565 by Alf-1234
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Ich habe jetzt auch die Version abc5dcf auf meinem Jumper T8SG installiert.
Leider wird dort keine Telemetrie angezeigt und den Speederbike konnte ich leider nicht binden.:(
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19 Jun 2019 03:18 #74571 by hexfet
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Test build is updated ( 9569a90 ). This version removes the dependence on auto acknowledgement. Some clone nRF chips are known to have a problem with AA, though I haven't seen it with Beken before. About out of things to try.

This version will try to bind (sync) for 5 seconds, then jump to data mode. Not sure how the quad will react to this, if at all. Try a few different variations - power on quad first, power on tx first, simultaneously...
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19 Jun 2019 04:42 #74572 by RAY123
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hexfet wrote: Test build is updated ( 9569a90 ). This version removes the dependence on auto acknowledgement. Some clone nRF chips are known to have a problem with AA, though I haven't seen it with Beken before. About out of things to try.

This version will try to bind (sync) for 5 seconds, then jump to data mode. Not sure how the quad will react to this, if at all. Try a few different variations - power on quad first, power on tx first, simultaneously...

Test Video 9569a90:https://www.mediafire.com/download/b9bcupapq3w5kq3
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19 Jun 2019 05:50 #74573 by RAY123
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power on quad first, power on tx first,the same,It doesn't work.
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24 Jun 2019 20:43 #74600 by Alf-1234
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Ich habe hexfet seine Anleitung heute abend auch mal durch probiert.
Leider konnte ich den Speederbike mit meinem Jumper und der Version 9569a90 nicht binden.

I also tried hexfet his instructions tonight.
Unfortunately, I could not tie the Speederbike with my jumper and version 9569a90.
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27 Jun 2019 02:08 #74608 by hexfet
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Often a difficult to find problem will turn out to be something simple, but I haven't been able to find anything. Test build is updated ( 105c9fb ) with a protocol option to change whether auto-ack is used or not, and a couple minor timing changes. Don't really expect any different behavior.

Likely the only way forward will be to get some captures from the receiver. It may not be possible depending on the receiver hardware, but if it can be done we'd need 3 captures. One binding with the stock tx, then trying to bind with deviation with the protocol option set both on and off.
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27 Jun 2019 13:17 - 27 Jun 2019 13:20 #74610 by RAY123
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hexfet wrote: Often a difficult to find problem will turn out to be something simple, but I haven't been able to find anything. Test build is updated ( 105c9fb ) with a protocol option to change whether auto-ack is used or not, and a couple minor timing changes. Don't really expect any different behavior.

Likely the only way forward will be to get some captures from the receiver. It may not be possible depending on the receiver hardware, but if it can be done we'd need 3 captures. One binding with the stock tx, then trying to bind with deviation with the protocol option set both on and off.

:P :P Ok, I will capture the data in the next few weeks, the chip is too small, a little difficult.
Last edit: 27 Jun 2019 13:20 by RAY123.
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