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01 Apr 2014 11:52 #21994 by cyberbillp
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burburx wrote: I dont actually know how protocols work but I made some experiences. First with DEVO 7e modified with nrf24l01 it drops all the time. With new transmitter is do not drops till the thirh or second cell.I looked and see that receiver card heated. Meybe card heat end stops sending power. I thought if we bybass supply of voltage to receiver we can maybe find solution by the way



The nrf24l01 certainly seems to have some kind of power problem. I have one with the PNA but its range is pitiful. Something bad is going on with it.

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01 Apr 2014 12:20 #21995 by phantom8
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cyberbillp wrote:

burburx wrote: I dont actually know how protocols work but I made some experiences. First with DEVO 7e modified with nrf24l01 it drops all the time. With new transmitter is do not drops till the thirh or second cell.I looked and see that receiver card heated. Meybe card heat end stops sending power. I thought if we bybass supply of voltage to receiver we can maybe find solution by the way



The nrf24l01 certainly seems to have some kind of power problem. I have one with the PNA but its range is pitiful. Something bad is going on with it.


The range for my nrf24l01 is pretty good. I can fly my quads till I can no longer visualise its orientation, probably over 100m. However, I do encounter a bug which sometimes corrupt the Devo screen. I thought that had been reported long time ago and was fixed.

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01 Apr 2014 12:33 #21996 by hanryz
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Same here, I have nrf24l01PA module built-in into my Devo 7e, no problems with drop-outs at all. All gone, after Banggood sent me a new receiver board. No idea what they changed, but it simply works now. Note, that there had been a new transmitter sent by Banggood, before the new receiver. However, the new transmitter was irrelevant to the droup-out issue.

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01 Apr 2014 21:57 - 01 Apr 2014 23:23 #22016 by cyberbillp
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Massiveoverkill got a similar unit as mine and has the same range. Only 50 or 60 feet. He's got a devo 7e and I have a devo 10. He can fly his v262 out of sight. You'd swear it was gone forever, then here it comes flying right back. EDIT: (Using his stock tx)



My v202 and v252 both drop mere feet away, same distance for massiveoverkill as well with his quads.
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02 Apr 2014 07:02 #22042 by SeByDocKy
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No problem of range with the V2x2 especially with devo TX



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05 May 2014 14:08 #22911 by warewolf75
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i own a wltoys v212 and a devo 7e tx with deviation.

im looking for model config for my v212, or maybe somebody can help me understand the hole complex adjustement so i can do it my self, i would like my quad to be able to have nice smooth flight on fmod switch 0 and a full agility mode on fmod 1 or something like that so i can do flip and even loop if possible, i already had my devo 7e with deviation and took the original remote nrf module, binding is ok, but have to re do it everytime, i had a few flight but no info on how to create my own config, can anybody help me out ??

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05 May 2014 14:49 #22914 by victzh
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WRT bad range - it seems there was a defective batch of V202 (not sure about V252) receiver boards. RF is not trivial to tune and very easy to ruin, you have small deviation in values of one of impedance match network elements (these small flees near the antenna) and your antenna is out of tune and range drops by factor of tens, maybe hundreds.

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05 May 2014 15:59 #22915 by warewolf75
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For what i think, sounds like the v212 protocole is not as ajustable as want it to be, rudder is too slow and the quad is not very agile, i will be replacing the board as BG send me anoyher since the bind leds is not working and the copter is wabling, if it does not work properly i will try a board from a BLADE 180QX and see what i can get from it.

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05 May 2014 18:26 - 05 May 2014 18:27 #22916 by warewolf75
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I took the module of the original remote and install it in my devo 7e, and the range is incredible, out of sight as it is. the only thing is i cant seem to know how to change the value of fmod to change the 6 axis stabilisation, sounds like its always on 100%, i can do flip at 100%, but the loop is harder, and the rudder is always too slow, i hope the new board will be ok if its the problem.

do you think the 180qx board wuold be more effective for fine tuning ?

i would like it to be as agile as the traxxas alias, is it possible ?
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13 May 2014 01:32 - 19 May 2014 19:25 #23166 by jesmail
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Quick question, do you have to manually rebind every time with this protocol.

I am using 4.0.1 on a Devo 8S with nRF24L01 module and external antenna.
On mine I have to rebind every time.

Thanks.

Anybody else using this protocol?? Do you have to rebind every time you start up the Heli?

If so it would be nice if we could put the rebind on a switch so that we would not have to go into the menu to start a rebind.

Thanks
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19 May 2014 19:26 #23366 by jesmail
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Bump....

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19 May 2014 20:05 #23369 by victzh
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Do you need to rebind the model each time with original controller? As far as I can recall - yes, the model just does not store bind information in it. The original controller starts in bind mode and changes into work mode after gesture - throttle up-down. What I can do is to add an option to the protocol so that it will start with bind mode.

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19 May 2014 20:38 #23371 by jesmail
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Thanks for the reply.

I do not have to rebind each time with the original controller.

So if it is possible to add the option to start that would really be nice. I am using the latest nightly build.

Thanks again

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19 May 2014 20:40 #23372 by victzh
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What model specifically do you use? V202, V252, anything else?

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19 May 2014 21:16 #23373 by jesmail
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I use the V222 Quad, that's all in the WL Toy's

I use Devo with Walkera's

I use DSMX with Blades.

Do you need a copy of my V222 Model.

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19 May 2014 21:20 #23374 by victzh
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Hmm, I suspect that you do rebind every time, it just happens automatically - you turn on the V222, then transmitter - it starts in bind mode, then you make a brief up-down movement with throttle stick and it's ready to fly. Actually, it just have bound. If you did NOT make this brief throttle move and it's ready anyways, it's surprizing for me.

What I can do is to replicate this behavior, just without throttle movement.

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19 May 2014 21:27 - 19 May 2014 21:29 #23375 by jesmail
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Only with using the original transmitter, With the 8s no stick movement ever binds it, I have to go into the model menu and hit the bind button.

Thanks

PS I know how to replicate the stick movement, but since it does not bind it on the 8S, I don't see how that will help.
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19 May 2014 21:29 #23376 by victzh
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Yes, I was talking about original TX, Deviation does not have any gestures implemented.

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19 May 2014 21:30 #23377 by jesmail
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So can the gestures be implemented?

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19 May 2014 21:45 #23378 by victzh
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You don't need a gesture. You'll just turn on the TX, it will be in bind mode for several seconds, then you fly.

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