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19 May 2014 21:49 #23379 by jesmail
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Excuse me, but not currently it does not do that.

So are you talking about after your change to the protocol?

Thanks

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19 May 2014 22:30 #23380 by victzh
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Yes. Currently it does not do this, I plan to implement it.

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19 May 2014 22:34 #23381 by Daryoon
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The WLToys TX starts up in binding mode every time.

Someone recently PM me about this issue of the v202 protocol as implemented in Deviation. I explained to him it's up to the protocol author, whether the Deviation protocol goes into binding mode automatically or not. For instance, the Hubsan and the YD717 protocols starts up in binding mode each time the radio is powered on.

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20 May 2014 00:10 #23382 by victzh
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OK, I build a new V202 for Devo10. It has an option - Re-bind. If you set it to Yes, it will start in binding mode for 3 seconds at every TX turn-on. I will put it in Builds forum. Test it and if it's satisfactory I will make a pull request so that it will be in nightlies.

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20 May 2014 00:23 #23383 by victzh
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I changed my mind, I'll make this pull request, get it from nightlies later.

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20 May 2014 00:51 #23384 by Daryoon
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Thanks for the fast addition of feature request. I am sure those flying the v2xx protocol will appreciate it. If I had personally owned a v2xx quad...I may have requested this feature myself. :)

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20 May 2014 00:55 #23385 by jesmail
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Thanks, look forward to testing it.

Also thanks for putting in the nightlies as I have a 8S.

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20 May 2014 16:32 #23406 by skyjet
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A friend of mine put the NRF24L01 in my Devo 10 so I can get the 2X2 protocol. I have 202,212,252,262 and 272s. They all fly fine on the WL Toys controller, but I have issues with all of them on the Devo. The issues range from drop outs to erratic controls. The 262 randomly flips even on a low rate setting. I don't understand how all of the deviation works, but I was wondering if I just have a bad quality module? Does anybody know of a source to get a good quality board and not a knock-off?

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20 May 2014 17:42 #23407 by victzh
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I would suspect so. Does it have a PA? Or do you have a photo of the module?

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20 May 2014 17:59 #23408 by Daryoon
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Yeah, there is possibly a bad batch of NRF24L01 with PA boards out there.

The best source? If you have more than one of those stock TX that came with your WLToys quad. Grabbing the module out of there is a good way IMHO.

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20 May 2014 18:26 #23411 by skyjet

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20 May 2014 18:30 #23412 by skyjet
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Daryoon wrote: Yeah, there is possibly a bad batch of NRF24L01 with PA boards out there.

The best source? If you have more than one of those stock TX that came with your WLToys quad. Grabbing the module out of there is a good way IMHO.


Thanks! I see a lot of complaints here with the 2X2 protocol with a Devo 10. Does anybody here have a Devo 10 with the 2X2 protocol that doesn't have any problems?

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20 May 2014 18:39 #23413 by victzh
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There are some problems with every module, not only nRF and V202. I have not seen anything bad about your specific module, but it's not the most frequently used.

I have no problems with my Devo10 and nRF24L01+ module at all. But I had one defective original module - you can't tell by the looks of it, you need to run it. Most probably your PA is gone. As PB recently found, it's quite sensitive to the power voltage, if it's accidentally connected to 5V, it's gone.

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20 May 2014 18:55 #23414 by skyjet
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Thanks for the quick reply. Where did you get your nRF24L01+ board? What is PA?

victzh wrote: There are some problems with every module, not only nRF and V202. I have not seen anything bad about your specific module, but it's not the most frequently used.

I have no problems with my Devo10 and nRF24L01+ module at all. But I had one defective original module - you can't tell by the looks of it, you need to run it. Most probably your PA is gone. As PB recently found, it's quite sensitive to the power voltage, if it's accidentally connected to 5V, it's gone.

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20 May 2014 19:03 - 20 May 2014 19:07 #23415 by victzh
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Power Amplifier. It's the second chip, closest to the antenna. Ebay, as almost everybody else. But it does not matter - the quality of the module bought on ebay for $8 is arbitrary.

I bought this module: www.ebay.com/itm/nRF24L01-PA-LNA-wireles...&hash=item2c7967b65e

I desoldered the SMA connector and soldered antenna directly to the board to save space.
Last edit: 20 May 2014 19:07 by victzh. Reason: EBay link corrected

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20 May 2014 19:16 #23417 by Daryoon
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The v2x2 protocol has a lot of fail in it. For a time, various drop out or range related issues. Even with the stock TX that came with it.

However, your issue doesn't seem related. Since your models fly just fine with your stock TX.

Therefore, I would grab a new NRF24L01 module and hopefully it's just an issue of your first module being defective.

Good luck.

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20 May 2014 19:19 #23419 by victzh
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I would like to clarify - nothing wrong with the protocol itself, it's the defective models with badly implemented radio part responsible for this.

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20 May 2014 19:42 #23420 by skyjet
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Thanks again. Is this the same seller that you bought it from?


victzh wrote: Power Amplifier. It's the second chip, closest to the antenna. Ebay, as almost everybody else. But it does not matter - the quality of the module bought on ebay for $8 is arbitrary.

I bought this module: www.ebay.com/itm/nRF24L01-PA-LNA-wireles...&hash=item2c7967b65e

I desoldered the SMA connector and soldered antenna directly to the board to save space.

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20 May 2014 19:44 - 20 May 2014 19:44 #23421 by Daryoon
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I don't have the insight you do of course Victzh. So I defer to what you say.

From my experience, non of the v202 protocol aircraft flies well around here. (v202, v222, v262) All has DO problems.

We've been shipped multiple "fixed" TX and have quads with supposedly "fixed" hardware. So I am not sure what's the deal. each time, I think to myself...maybe this is not the "fixed" one. hehe

I figured it has to do with interference at the parks around here. And the v2xx protocol didn't aren't able to recover gracefully from that.
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20 May 2014 19:44 #23422 by victzh
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The module is Besram and the seller - laserlands - seems to have connection to the producer. You can ask them yourselves, is it Besram module or not.

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