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09 Dec 2016 16:01 #56710
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Are you using a x-in-1 module or a separate nrf24l01+ ?
Looks like the x-in-1 modules are having issues emulating XN297L at 250kbps ... unfortunately there's nothing much I can do about that.
Looks like the x-in-1 modules are having issues emulating XN297L at 250kbps ... unfortunately there's nothing much I can do about that.
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09 Dec 2016 16:01 #56711
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@SodaAnt similar to what? Are you sure you're writing in the right thread? And what is 10e?
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09 Dec 2016 16:05 #56712
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Yeah, that seems like it may be the issue. I do think I have a spare nrf24l01+ board lying around, maybe it is possible to solder that into the tx in addition to the 3 in 1 module, but designate the new pins as the ones for the nrf in the config file?
Yes, meant to quote a post and failed. The binding issues on anything but very low powers that some people were seeing. The 10E is simply the devo 10, but white and a bit higher dBi antenna.
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goebish wrote: Are you using a x-in-1 module or a separate nrf24l01+ ?
Looks like the x-in-1 modules are having issues emulating XN297L at 250kbps ... unfortunately there's nothing much I can do about that.
Yeah, that seems like it may be the issue. I do think I have a spare nrf24l01+ board lying around, maybe it is possible to solder that into the tx in addition to the 3 in 1 module, but designate the new pins as the ones for the nrf in the config file?
victzh wrote: @SodaAnt similar to what? Are you sure you're writing in the right thread? And what is 10e?
Yes, meant to quote a post and failed. The binding issues on anything but very low powers that some people were seeing. The 10E is simply the devo 10, but white and a bit higher dBi antenna.
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09 Dec 2016 16:10 #56713
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You'll have to disconnect the nrf24 csn pin from the x-in-1 module to connect the one from the separate module instead.
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SodaAnt wrote: Yeah, that seems like it may be the issue. I do think I have a spare nrf24l01+ board lying around, maybe it is possible to solder that into the tx in addition to the 3 in 1 module, but designate the new pins as the ones for the nrf in the config file?
You'll have to disconnect the nrf24 csn pin from the x-in-1 module to connect the one from the separate module instead.
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09 Dec 2016 16:14 #56714
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Also, try with a few different transmitter IDs, maybe it will work better with a different set of frequencies, that's worth a try ...
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09 Dec 2016 16:18 #56716
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@victzh, interesting post regarding a x-in-1 module, nrf24l01 and a xn297l @ 250kbps protocol:
www.deviationtx.com/forum/protocol-devel...-q303?start=80#56342
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victzh wrote: @SodaAnt similar to what?
@victzh, interesting post regarding a x-in-1 module, nrf24l01 and a xn297l @ 250kbps protocol:
www.deviationtx.com/forum/protocol-devel...-q303?start=80#56342
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09 Dec 2016 17:05 - 09 Dec 2016 17:10 #56720
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A possible fix to this issue is to change the two loading capacitors of the crystal to 15pF. I am running some more experiments on Q303 and will come to a conclusion very soon. Anybody having problem using nRF24L01 of 4-in-1 module to emulate XN297L in 250kbps mode can give this a try.
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13 Dec 2016 13:45 - 15 Dec 2016 16:09 #56776
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More IDs vs Frequencies:
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| Num | ID | / | Freq | |||||
| 0 | 0x4F | 0x1C | 0x00 | / | 0x3A | 0x35 | 0x4A | 0x45 |
| 1 | 0x90 | 0x1C | 0x00 | / | 0x2E | 0x36 | 0x3E | 0x46 |
| 2 | 0x24 | 0x36 | 0x00 | / | 0x32 | 0x3E | 0x42 | 0x4E |
| 3 | 0x7A | 0x40 | 0x00 | / | 0x2E | 0x3C | 0x3E | 0x4C |
| 4 | 0x61 | 0x31 | 0x00 | / | 0x2F | 0x3B | 0x3F | 0x4B |
| 5 | 0x5D | 0x37 | 0x00 | / | 0x33 | 0x3B | 0x43 | 0x4B |
| 6 | 0xFD | 0x4F | 0x00 | / | 0x33 | 0x3B | 0x43 | 0x4B |
| 7 | 0x86 | 0x3C | 0x00 | / | 0x34 | 0x3E | 0x44 | 0x4E |
| 8 | 0x41 | 0x22 | 0x00 | / | 0x3F | 0x34 | 0x2F | 0x44 |
| 9 | 0xEE | 0xB3 | 0x00 | / | 0x39 | 0x3E | 0x49 | 0x4E |
| 10 | 0x9A | 0xB2 | 0x00 | / | 0x2E | 0x38 | 0x3E | 0x48 |
| 11 | 0x3C | 0xCD | 0x01 | / | 0x32 | 0x3E | 0x42 | 0x4E |
| 12 | 0xC0 | 0x44 | 0x00 | / | 0x2E | 0x36 | 0x3E | 0x46 |
| 13 | 0x2A | 0xFE | 0x00 | / | 0x2E | 0x38 | 0x3E | 0x48 |
| 14 | 0xD7 | 0x6E | 0x00 | / | 0x3A | 0x41 | 0x4A | 0x51 |
| 15 | 0xF5 | 0x2B | 0x02 | / | 0x33 | 0x3F | 0x43 | 0x4F |
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13 Dec 2016 13:46 #56777
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Thanks, I'll add them to Deviation and nrf24-multipro 
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13 Dec 2016 16:48 - 13 Dec 2016 16:53 #56795
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I'll remove pairs with duplicate channel list (quite a few of them for only 15 dumps !) because flying more than 1 E010 with transmitters that are using the same frequencies is an issue:
github.com/goebish/nrf24_multipro/issues/17
Interferences have also a good chance to happen with stock transmitters, looks like they're using a fixed list of 16 or so channel sequence ...
Interferences have also a good chance to happen with stock transmitters, looks like they're using a fixed list of 16 or so channel sequence ...
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14 Dec 2016 17:01 #56821
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But please keep this list somewhere - it may help guessing the algorithm of producing frequency hopping (actually - two frequencies, other two are deduced) from id.
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14 Dec 2016 18:59 - 14 Dec 2016 19:00 #56824
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Do we have a consensus of how many tx id / channels pairs are required to add a protocol to Deviation when we've not figured out the algo yet ?
I've a few uncommited protocols because I've only 1-2 tx id ...
I've a few uncommited protocols because I've only 1-2 tx id ...
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14 Dec 2016 19:52 #56826
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I think it is a question of documentation.
If you add a comment about that in the supported model list, every protocol is useful even if only one channel set is known...
If you add a comment about that in the supported model list, every protocol is useful even if only one channel set is known...
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14 Dec 2016 19:56 #56827
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I agree with FDR. Also, protocol visibility raises chances of other people providing us with more Id data.
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15 Dec 2016 12:22 #56839
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My Devo only binds to the E010 at 10mW and it has a bad delay. Is that because of the 3in1 not being able to simulate whatever you guys said above?
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15 Dec 2016 12:24 - 15 Dec 2016 12:25 #56840
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Probably, looks like a fix is to replace the 2 capacitors (size 0402, value 15pF) that are located near the oscillator of the nrf24l01:
www.deviationtx.com/forum/protocol-devel...q303?start=100#56818
But first, try with a few different transmitter ID.
www.deviationtx.com/forum/protocol-devel...q303?start=100#56818
But first, try with a few different transmitter ID.
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15 Dec 2016 15:32 #56846
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This is also caused by bad antennas. Try another one.FabioKastro wrote: My Devo only binds to the E010 at 10mW and it has a bad delay. Is that because of the 3in1 not being able to simulate whatever you guys said above?
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15 Dec 2016 16:05 - 15 Dec 2016 16:11 #56847
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Here
is the capture of my E010 transmitter.
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15 Dec 2016 16:10 #56849
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Thanks, I've updated the table above.
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15 Dec 2016 16:12 #56850
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I've already tried hard but I can't find the logic ... oh well, this list is good enough
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